Magic and Hawks (again) - VETOED (2-3)

[Jay]

Hawks Trade
Jeff Teague $2.43 $3.47QO

Magic Trade
Louis Williams $5.00 $5.23 $5.45
14 2nd CHA

I accept. I gonna keep trying for one year deals. Teagues contract gives me a little cap space this year. But again this is a 1-year rental but u guys know by now its all about this year for me.

[Deleted]

I accept. Teague is on a 1yr contract while Williams has a 3yr deal, and I get an extra pick in 2014 draft. Fantasy wise there's not a lot between them--Teague is averaging 14.3 fantasy point a game this season, while Williams is averaging 12.3.

[Deleted]

Good trade this time guys..much better than the Smoove one. Teague might prove to be more costly, but he is also more talented imo and younger so this is a good move by both teams.

Approve (1-0)

[Thunder GM (Tiago)]

I don't understand this trade for the hawks, and his explanation is even more puzzling. Does the Hakws GM think this is a points league? BTW in a standard points league Teague is averaging 34.8 and Lou 18.5

In this league, we count 9 cats. Pts, Reb, Ast, Blk, Stl, FG%, FT%, 3PM, TO

The fact that Lou Williams scores less 2 points than Teague, since it's only one of the 9 cats, it's only relevant because what Lou usually does is scoring.

So, even in the best cat, he's worse than Teague.

Jeff Teague is a good player, and is having a very good start of season. He wins 7 of the 9 cats in a comparison with Lou, and some of them by a very large magin.

This is the type of player one should build around, not trade for an average at best player and a lottery ticket (2nd round) just because he's RFA next season (which allows them to just match the best offer and keep him for another 4 years).

To make things ever worse, Lou also plays for ATL so they wouldn't even diversify their roster with this trade.


Im sorry to veto another of your trades guys, specially Magic who would win every trade, but this is just terrible, imo.



Veto (1-1)

[Deleted]

Thanks Tiago--yes I misunderstood the espn stats, thinking this was a points league and that the points category was actually the average fantasy points for each player. For those TC's who have not voted I would appreciate it if you could veto--the trade is crap.

[brandon]

Agree with Royce.

Approve 2-1

[Celtics GM (Jose)]

Hawks owner must read the rules a lot better the second time.

And there must be a second time.





Vetoed (2-2)

[Lakers GM (Renato)]

Veto (2-3). Explanations above.

[Jay]

can i get a better explanation Jose i dont get it

[Celtics GM (Jose)]

Nov 15, 2012 11:25:58 GMT Jay said:

can i get a better explanation Jose i dont get it

It was more of a coment on what Tiago noted about the league's scoring system.

Hawks GM was evaluating players as if this was a points league (like most NFL leagues) and not a 9 categories league.

And since that was enough of a reason for me to vote, i refered to it.


And one thing that fortunately Tiago left out for the next to vote:

Hawks GM can have Teague next year.

That makes him an asset much more valuable than a combination of a guy who's:

- 3 years older
- with a more expensive contract
- which could last only one more year than Teague
- has only started 38 of his 462 career games
- has never put up more than 29.9 minutes
- more than 14.9 points
- more than 2.9 rebounds
- more than 4.2 assists
- and in seven years has only one season shooting above .445, and we all know how this one is going


And a 2nd rounder that seem's to be in the 40-50 range.


As you see, there are plenty of reasons why this trade is unbalanced. If we where talking about a 1st round that could end up in the 10-20 range, it would be another story.

In my opinion that would be the lowest possible value Hawks GM should get for a player of Teague's worth.