Den / Hou Trade - VETOED (2-3)

[Nuggets GM (Joe)]

Denver Trade:

Terrence Ross: 12/13 1.50M, 13/14 1.65M, 14/15TO 1.90M, 15/16TO 2.18M, 16/17QO 2.73M

Luke Babbit: 12/13 0.50M

Houston 2013 1st

for

Houston Trade:

Greivis Vasquez: 12/13 1.19M, 13/14TO 2.15M, 14/15QO 3.20M

John Henson: 12/13 1.00M, 13/14 1.10M, 14/15TO 1.27M, 15/16TO 1.45M, 16/17QO 1.82M

Royce White: 12/13 1.50M, 13/14 1.65M, 14/15TO 1.90M, 15/16TO 2.18M, 16/17QO 2.73M


I agree, I think Vasquez can improve my need for assist, which is the area I can improve right away, and he has a very friendly contract for the next 2 years. And for Henson, we know what he's capable of when he's giving time. It's sad to let go Houston's 1st and Ross, but you have to give something to get something. Good dealing, Houston.

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I accept. Obviously this deal focus' around The first and Ross. I think Ross has potential to be a great NBA player and is in a good place to do so while my pick next year will be a top 5 pick. This is part of my rebuild process. Hate to lose Henson but think I gain more potential in the long run with Ross and the 1st

[Former Spurs GM (Adam)]

Approve (1-0)

Ross, Babbit are pretty even with Henson, White.

The interesting part of this to me is Vasquez for the first. This trade only reinforces that the pick will be high. Seems fair enough to me.

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Ross for Henson is fair since both have shown what they can do this year and Vasquez for the pick is fair in my opinion too since there are some guys that are showing they can really ball who are gonna come to the 2013 draft. Nice move from both sides.

Approve (2-0)

[Nuggets GM (Joe)]

By the way, Royce White will move to IL right after the deal pass, so that my roster will not get over 13 players.

[Thunder GM (Tiago)]

I'm really sorry guys, but i don't think i can approve this.

For starters I don't buy the henson=ross, but let's assume that is true because it doesn't change my decision.

Since Babbit is on a 1 year contract, it has no value whatsoever to HOU so White is better than that. If he doesnt play he can leave in the summer not exercising the TO, and if he somehow starts to play he has 5 years for "free" and an awsome potential and bball skills. Nothing big, but still...

But the big problem for me is Vasquez for a 1st. Vasquez is at this moment #3 in AST in the NBA and is posting 14-5-9-1-1 which are fantastic numbers and even better on a 1M contract and seems too much for a probably 4th pick in terms of odds in the lottery.

I don't usually look at past trade much, and in this case I don't need to to veto, but Jennings for babbit+1st+2nd+2nd+2nd+2nd was vetoed. and CP3 on an expiring contract needed 3 1sts (not comparing players, but would you guys trade vasquez with this contract for CP3 on his?).

Maybe if someone else other than Babbit (on an expiring) or another pick was added.

Veto (2-1)

[Celtics GM (Jose)]

Tiago has posted pretty much everything.

I think it's a gross underpay for a player of Vasquez quality.



Veto (2-2)

[Lakers GM (Renato)]

I do have to agree with league management on this one. I'll take the remaining for players aside and evaluate the Greivis for a 1st trade, even though I shouldn't since Royce White probably won't play a minute in the NBA... That 2 for 2 trade wouldn't be vetoed but there would be a clear winner...

Greivis probably has one of the best contracts in the NBA considering his current production and netting a 1st rounder (even though it's surely in the lottery) for him is not enough. The lottery isn't a sure thing and players who produce like Greivis aren't usually that cheap.

If the Nuggets sent someone who produced more or an extra 1st round I think the trade wouldn't be vetoed. IT wouldn't be totally fair, but I probably wouldn't veto. As it is constructed now, can't help it but...

Vetoed (2-3)