MIN-PHI | VETOED (1-3)

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Wolves trade:
Luis Scola - $4.5M (2015)
Marcus Thornton - $8.05M (2015)
Francisco Garcia - $0.5M (2015)

76ers trade:
DeAndre Jordan - $10.99M, $11.44M


I accept. Need another big man

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Accept. Will drop Elton and Beaubois if this trade go through

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VETO (0-1)

All I have to say is..are you kidding me? None of the players the Wolves are giving have above minimal value. Thornton hasn't even played the last two games, scola is a backup..ridiculous. Make a more respectable deal

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And your offered Lamb and Baynes for Jordan. How much more respectable is that?

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Burn... Lol

[Jay]

I thought commenting on voting wasn't allowed. But anyway they both seem like bad offers to me but it's not me making the trade

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Nov 22, 2013 4:59:18 GMT @jordan said:

And your offered Lamb and Baynes for Jordan. How much more respectable is that?

If you want me to be honest, I think it's much more respectable. Lamb is getting plenty of minutes, unlike any of the guys you are getting in this deal. Sorry if I offended you with my vote, but I'm being honest. If you don't think my offer was any good, that's your opinion, and if you think this one was good, that's your opinion. But don't get upset when I state my opinion on a trade, it just makes you look childish.

[Lakers GM (Renato)]

Let's proceed with the voting. You can discuss this someplace else.

First of all, the condtional drop should be stated in the first post, not when the other manager accepts. However, it's still posted, so I'll now explain my vote...

When you compare Jordan+Brand+Beaubois in the last 14 days to Scola+Thornton+Garcia, you'll realize that Philly will actually improve in FT%, 3PM, AST, STL and PTS. So, the trade is not unfair when you compare stats. Now, when I compare contracts I realize that I wouldn't do this trade at all. I'd rather keep Jordan and take my chances on FA next year with the available roster spots. But I said it before, it's not the TC's place to micromanage and I don't see a reason to veto this trade, even if Jordan is the best fantasy player involved by far.

Approve (1-1)

[Former Spurs GM (Adam)]

Veto (1-2)

First of all, I don't think Brand and Beaubois had to be dropped if this is the only trade being re-posted so far. Beaubois could be moved to the inactive list, and there is roster space for this trade on its own.

I understand that Brand and Beaubois weren't contributing, but Jordan has far too much trade value to use him to give him up just for bottom of the roster players.

Garcia and Thornton's minutes seem to be on the decline. Scola is steady, but even in his case there are 143 players separating them on the player rater.

The only thing that makes me hesitate is Jordan's FT%, which could make him a hard player to work with in some respects. However, he has enough value in other categories and enough trade value to compensate without dropping him this low. If it were Dwight Howard, Andre Drummond, or Josh Smith I'd feel the same wsy. Even if its killing someone's team, there's still substantial value to these players.

I really don't like to veto, but to put it simply, there's not enough value being returned for DeAndre Jordan. The Sixers' lack of explanation doesn't help either.

If I were to suggest how it could pass in my opinion. If Sixers really wants these players, at least add a first round draft pick or something.

Sorry guys.

[Thunder GM (Tiago)]

Veto (1-3)

I never liked DeAndre Jordan a lot, but his production is very very good for a C, given that he contributes in PTS, REB, FG% and BLK which are the main stats for big men.

His value is at his peak, and he0s being traded for guys who play too few minutes and are average backups. If they were all very cheap, I would in fact approve it because it's a 3X1 and Scola has a lot of value with his salary and stats, and all that salary could be used to compensate the value lost, but that's not even the case.

Thornton on that salary is really a negative asset for me (and his recent decline in pt and producition doesnt help).

So, Scola is the really piece going to PHI with a positive value in my mind, the rest is a 15 mins scrub in Garcia and a big overpayed sub with loss of playing time (that even when playing doesn't justifiy that $). that looks like a pretty bad deal for me.