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Post by Thunder GM (Tiago) on May 22, 2014 23:18:09 GMT
This are the pairings between real life NBA teams and our league's teams. If you have any doubt about the tiebreakers I can post them also. Pick | NBA | NBDL | 1 | Milwaukee 15-67 (.183) // 250 | Dallas Mavericks | 2 | Philadelphia 19-63 (.232) // 199 | Washington Wizards | 3 | Orlando 23-59 (.280) // 156 | Toronto Raptors | 4 | Utah 25-57 (.305) // 104 | Sacramento Kings | 5 | Boston 25-57 (.305) // 103 | Utah Jazz | 6 | LA Lakers 27-55 (.329) // 63 | Philadelphia 76ers | 7 | Sacramento 28-54 (.341) // 43 | New Orleans Pelicans | 8 | Detroit (1) 29-53 (.354) // 28 | Cleveland Cavaliers | 9 | Cleveland 33-49 (.402) // 17 | Portland Trailblazers | 10 | New Orleans (2) 34-48 (.415) // 11 | Memphis Grizzlies | 11 | Denver (3) 36-46 (.439) // 8 | Detroit Pistons | 12 | New York (To Denver or to Orlando via Denver) 37-45 (.451) // 7 | Brooklyn Nets | 13 | Minnesota (4) 40-42 (.488) // 6 | Chicago Bulls | 14 | Phoenix 48-34 (.585) // 5 | Phoenix Suns | 15 | Atlanta 38-44 (.463) | New York Knicks | 16 | Charlotte (To Chicago) 43-39 (.524) | Miami Heat | 17 | Brooklyn (To Boston) 44-38 (.537) | Atlanta Hawks | 18 | Washington (To Phoenix) 44-38 (.537) | Los Angeles Clippers | 19 | Chicago 48-34 (.585) | Orlando Magic | 20 | Toronto 48-34 (.585) | San Antonio Spurs | 21 | Dallas (To Oklahoma City via Houston and LA Lakers) 49-33 (.598) | Milwaukee Bucks | 22 | Memphis 50-32 (.610) | Boston Celtics | 23 | Golden State (To Utah) 51-31 (.622) | Oklahoma City Thunder | 24 | Portland (To Charlotte) 54-28 (.659) | Los Angeles Lakers | 25 | Houston 54-28 (.659) | Houston Rockets | 26 | Miami 54-28 (.659) | Charlotte Bobcats | 27 | Indiana (To Phoenix) 56-26 (.683) | Indiana Pacers | 28 | LA Clippers 57-25 (.695) | Minnesotta Timberwolves | 29 | Oklahoma City 59-23 (.720) | Denver Nuggets | 30 | San Antonio 62-20 (.756) | Golden State Warriors |
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Post by Thunder GM (Tiago) on May 22, 2014 23:27:31 GMT
So the 2014 NBDL draft order is: Pick | NBDL | 1 | Portland Trailblazers | 2 | Dallas Mavericks | 3 | Washington Wizards | 4 | Toronto Raptors | 5 | Sacramento Kings | 6 | Utah Jazz | 7 | Philadelphia 76ers | 8 | New Orleans Pelicans | 9 | Cleveland Cavaliers | 10 | Memphis Grizzlies | 11 | Detroit Pistons | 12 | Brooklyn Nets | 13 | Chicago Bulls | 14 | Phoenix Suns | 15 | New York Knicks | 16 | Miami Heat | 17 | Atlanta Hawks | 18 | Los Angeles Clippers | 19 | Orlando Magic | 20 | San Antonio Spurs | 21 | Milwaukee Bucks | 22 | Boston Celtics | 23 | Oklahoma City Thunder | 24 | Los Angeles Lakers | 25 | Houston Rockets | 26 | Charlotte Bobcats | 27 | Indiana Pacers | 28 | Minnesotta Timberwolves | 29 | Denver Nuggets | 30 | Golden State Warriors |
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Post by Thunder GM (Tiago) on May 22, 2014 23:32:54 GMT
This order is based on original team picks, and doesn't reflect who owns each pick atm.
later we will look at what teams have what picks at this time, and will post it.
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Post by Suns GM (Roberto) on May 23, 2014 10:13:29 GMT
Sorry, but there's another team in the hunt for the 1st pick in the draft. In week 17 DET was given the win against WAS because is was the "home team". However, WAS had 381 total min and DET had 619. So, WAS should be 2-16 and DET 5-13.
I'm pretty sure that i pointed this out in a previous post.
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Post by Thunder GM (Tiago) on May 23, 2014 22:41:49 GMT
That will change a lot of positions between 6 and 11
I will post a new order in a few hours.
thanks roberto
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Post by Celtics GM (Jose) on May 25, 2014 14:36:45 GMT
So here's the detailed explanation on the draft order: Final Standings Pick | NBA | NDL | W | L | % | 1 | Milwaukee 15-67 (.183) | Dallas Mavericks | 0 | 18 | .000 | 2 | Philadelphia 19-63 (.232) | Washington Wizards | 2 | 16 | .056 | 3 | Orlando 23-59 (.280) | Toronto Raptors | 3 | 15 | .167 | 4 | Utah 25-57 (.305) | Sacramento Kings | 3 | 15 | .167 | 5 | Boston 25-57 (.305) | Utah Jazz | 4 | 14 | .222 | 6 | LA Lakers 27-55 (.329) | Portland Trailblazers | 5 | 13 | .278 | 7 | Sacramento 28-54 (.341) | New Orleans Pelicans | 5 | 13 | .278 | 8 | Detroit 29-53 (.354) | Cleveland Cavaliers | 5 | 13 | .278 | 9 | Cleveland 33-49 (.402) | Detroit Pistons | 5 | 13 | .333 | 10 | New Orleans (2) 34-48 (.415) | Philadelphia 76ers | 5 | 13 | .278 | 11 | Denver 36-46 (.439) | Memphis Grizzlies | 6 | 12 | .333 | 12 | New York 37-45 (.451) | Brooklyn Nets | 7 | 11 | .389 | 13 | Minnesota 40-42 (.488) | Chicago Bulls | 7 | 11 | .389 | 14 | Phoenix 48-34 (.585) | Phoenix Suns | 9 | 9 | .500 | 15 |
| New York Knicks | 7 | 11 | .389 | 16 |
| Miami Heat | 8 | 10 | .444 | 17 |
| Atlanta Hawks | 9 | 9 | .500 | 18 |
| Los Angeles Clippers | 10 | 8 | .556 | 19 |
| Orlando Magic | 10 | 8 | .556 | 20 |
| San Antonio Spurs | 12 | 6 | .667 | 21 | | Milwaukee Bucks | 12 | 6 | .667 | 22 |
| Boston Celtics | 12 | 6 | .667 | 23 |
| Oklahoma City Thunder | 13 | 5 | .722 | 24 |
| Los Angeles Lakers | 13 | 5 | .722 | 25 |
| Houston Rockets | 15 | 3 | .833 | 26 | | Charlotte Bobcats | 16 | 2 | .889 | 27 |
| Indiana Pacers | 16 | 2 | .889 | 28 |
| Minnesotta Timberwolves | 17 | 1 | .944 | 29 |
| Denver Nuggets | 17 | 1 | .944 | 30 |
| Golden State Warriors | 17 | 1 | .944 |
There were some tiebreakers that need application for lottery teams: TOR - 0.111% VS CONF SAC - 0.167% VS CONF POR - 0.125% VS CONF NOP - 0.278% VS CONF - 0.000% VS PO CLE - 0.278% VS CONF - 0.167% VS PO DET - 0.278% VS CONF - 0.25% VS PO PHI - 0.375% VS CONF BRO - 0.375% VS CONF CHI - 0.389% VS CONF So here's the final order. This list does not state pick ownership. Pick | Team | 1 | Detroit Pistons | 2 | Dallas Mavericks | 3 | Washington Wizards | 4 | Toronto Raptors | 5 | Sacramento Kings | 6 | Utah Jazz | 7 | Portland Trailblazers | 8 | New Orleans Pelicans | 9 | Cleveland Cavaliers | 10 | Philadelphia 76ers | 11 | Memphis Grizzlies | 12 | Brooklyn Nets | 13 | Chicago Bulls | 14 | Phoenix Suns | 15 | New York Knicks | 16 | Miami Heat | 17 | Atlanta Hawks | 18 | Los Angeles Clippers | 19 | Orlando Magic | 20 | San Antonio Spurs | 21 | Milwaukee Bucks | 22 | Boston Celtics | 23 | Oklahoma City Thunder | 24 | Los Angeles Lakers | 25 | Houston Rockets | 26 | Charlotte Bobcats | 27 | Indiana Pacers | 28 | Minnesotta Timberwolves | 29 | Denver Nuggets | 30 | Golden State Warriors |
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Post by Cavs GM (Matthew) on May 25, 2014 22:05:09 GMT
Im just curious, but I have the head to head tiebreaker over DET (i beat him twice). Does that Tiebreaker not come into play in this situtaion or what?
Also, I see the tiebreakers you used, but Im not sure of the order of tiebreakers that are supposed to be used or anything like that(1st- H2H, 2nd - Conf %, etc.). I trust you guys, but those should have been posted before the lottery even took place.
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Post by Suns GM (Roberto) on May 25, 2014 23:00:58 GMT
CLE lost against DET in week 9. In week five it was a tie, but CLE won in the tiebreaker (less minutes played).
Besides, head to head would only apply if all the 5 teams tied played in the same league, i think.
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Post by Cavs GM (Matthew) on May 25, 2014 23:13:18 GMT
Whoops, my bad. I was looking at the wrong team. Thanks. This is what i wanted to know. Besides, head to head would only apply if all the 5 teams tied played in the same league, i think. Id still like to see the tiebreaker list though
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Post by Jay on May 25, 2014 23:50:09 GMT
Tiebreakers have no impact on 5 way ties
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Post by Thunder GM (Tiago) on May 25, 2014 23:55:39 GMT
In the event two or more teams are tied in the standings, a series of tiebreakers are applied to determine which team receives the higher seeding.
Two-Team Tiebreaker: 1. Division winner (this criterion is applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division) 2. Better record in head-to-head games 3. Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division) 4. Higher winning percentage in conference games 5. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference 6. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference 7. Higher point differential between points scored and points allowed
Three-Team Tiebreaker: 1. Division winner (this criterion is applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division) 2. Best head-to-head winning percentage among all teams tied 3. Highest winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division) 4. Highest winning percentage in conference games 5. Highest winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference 6. Highest point differential between points scored and points allowed
We in this league can't ever use tiebreaker 3, unless all teams are from the same "espn league" so they all played each other.
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